podcast 023: the map to a meaningful day
In this episode, Deb sits down with Andrea Mac to explore why getting “good with the muck” is essential for real human flourishing.
“Getting good with the muck is one of the most important ingredients for real human flourishing.”
Andrea shares the pivotal practices and mindset shifts that helped her redefine success on her own terms—moving away from societal expectations and toward a life built on purpose, clarity, and honest self-alignment. From conducting a “happiness audit” to sitting with discomfort instead of sprinting from it, this conversation is packed with real-world wisdom on how flourishing starts not in avoiding struggle, but in moving through it with intention.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone craving a more authentic relationship with themselves—and a life rooted in what truly matters
Key Highlights:
Why flourishing starts with radical clarity on what you really want
How conducting a personal "happiness audit" can change the trajectory of your life
The painful but powerful lesson: “the only way is through” when facing suffering
Why sitting with discomfort is a gateway to personal freedom and deeper joy
How embracing the muck of life builds resilience, connection, and meaningful impact
About Our Guest:
Andrea Mac is a Chicago-based revenue strategist who helps people and businesses grow. As a mother of four children ranging from kindergarten to college-age, she balances her thriving career with family life. Andrea specializes in empowering professional women economically and is writing a book called "Salesy" that reframes selling as an act of generosity. Known as an "idea maven," she brings thoughtful insights on human flourishing in work, relationships, and self-care.
About The HX Collective:
The HX Collective is a movement to elevate the human experience—at work, in relationships, and with ourselves. Through honest conversations and strategic insight, we explore how connection, context, and compassion can create a more flourishing world, starting right where we are.
