podcast 003: redefining success, connection, and the big job myth


In this episode, Deb is joined by attorney and HX ally Gretchen Miller Busch for a powerful conversation on redefining what it means to flourish—especially in demanding careers.

 "The call always comes first—and connection is what gets you that call."

Gretchen, a partner and leader at a top U.S. law firm, shares her journey navigating motherhood, marriage, and management while actively reshaping the culture of law to center human connection. Together, they explore the myth of work-life balance, the courage required for work-life blending, and why genuine relationships are not only good for people—but critical to business success.

Gretchen also details how she’s bringing human flourishing to life through a groundbreaking program she launched for rising partners, proving that connection-building activities (even goat yoga!) can drive retention, collaboration, and revenue in professional services.

Key Highlights:

  • Why “having it all” is about integration, not perfection

  • The myth of balance vs. the truth of blending

  • Human connection as the foundation of client and colleague trust

  • How professional services firms can operationalize flourishing

  • A behind-the-scenes look at an innovative cohort model transforming workplace culture

About Our Guest:
Gretchen Miller Busch is a partner and management board member at a top national law firm, where she is leading initiatives to center connection, collaboration, and culture in one of the country’s most competitive industries. She is also a proud Gen X mom, wife, and advocate for redefining what thriving looks like in modern leadership.

About The HX Collective:
The HX Collective is a movement to elevate the human experience—at work, in relationships, and with ourselves. Through honest conversations and strategic insight, we explore how connection, context, and compassion can create a more flourishing world, starting right where we are.



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