podcast 005: leading with context, not control
In this episode, Deb is joined by Rick Wellock and Amy Wellock Staggs of the Wellock Group—an intergenerational coaching duo united by their mission to humanize leadership and elevate the human experience.
"There is no flourishing without struggle... You can’t reproduce what you don’t possess.”
With decades of wisdom and a deep commitment to contextual, whole-person development, they explore the intersections of professional growth, personal transformation, and the seasons of life.
Together, they unpack how real human flourishing often begins in the tension—within ourselves, our relationships, and our work. Rick brings a profound lens on leadership as relationship, while Amy introduces the power of perspective, mutuality, and intentional touchpoints in the workplace.
Deb shares her own experience as a client of the Wellock Group, offering insight into how their coaching has impacted her personally and professionally—making this conversation not just powerful but deeply personal.
Key Highlights:
The seasons of human flourishing: from struggle to emergence
Coaching as a container for self-awareness and transformation
Context over content: why human experience demands nuance
How leaders can build trust, not just productivity
Creating workplaces that support metamorphosis, not just metrics
About Our Guest:
Amy Wellock Staggs is an executive and life coach with a background in arts management and a passion for creative, honest human connection. She brings warmth, clarity, and lived experience to her coaching practice at the Wellock Group.
Rick Wellock is a veteran coach and human development expert with over 40 years of experience helping people evolve into their full potential. Now in partnership with his daughter, Rick continues to guide leaders with wisdom, humility, and a fierce commitment to relational integrity.
About The HX Collective:
The HX Collective is a movement to elevate the human experience—at work, in relationships, and with ourselves. Through honest conversations and strategic insight, we explore how connection, context, and compassion can create a more flourishing world, starting right where we are.
