podcast 008: cognitive dissonance is your superpower


In this episode, Dr. Deb Gorton joins Deb to explore the loneliness epidemic, the power of cognitive dissonance, and why human flourishing at work starts with real relationships—not just ping pong tables and perks.

 “Cognitive dissonance is uncomfortable—but it’s also the spark for transformation. Without it, nothing changes.”

 Drawing on her clinical expertise and experience as a business owner, Deb breaks down how discomfort can be the catalyst for growth, why in-person work still matters, and how leaders can build workplaces where people actually want to stay and thrive.

This conversation is a masterclass in practical, people-centered leadership for anyone shaping workplace culture in 2025.

Key Highlights:

  • Why loneliness is a public health crisis—and what work has to do with it

  • The truth about “balance”: why comfort isn’t the goal, and dissonance sparks change

  • Why in-person presence (yes, even when it’s inconvenient) accelerates connection and impact

  • The cost of avoiding hard conversations—and the ROI of radical honesty

  • Three simple practices to make your workplace a flourishing one

About Our Guest:
 Dr. Deb Gorton is a clinical psychologist and founder of a 14-person community mental health practice in Chicago. A passionate advocate for human flourishing, Deb blends clinical insight with lived experience to help individuals and organizations embrace the discomfort required for growth. She is also the author of Embracing Uncomfortable and a beloved aunt, sister, and city dweller who believes deeply in the transformative power of presence, truth-telling, and relationships.

About The HX Collective:
The HX Collective is a movement to elevate the human experience—at work, in relationships, and with ourselves. Through honest conversations and strategic insight, we explore how connection, context, and compassion can create a more flourishing world, starting right where we are.



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podcast 007: flourishing isn’t a  perk—it’s a performance strategy