podcast 016: presence over performance
In this episode, Deb is once again joined by Rick Wellock and Amy Wellock Staggs of the Wellock Group for a deep and heartfelt exploration of the human experience through the lens of relationships.
"Compassion literally means to suffer with. But the real power is in the with—being shoulder to shoulder, present, and curious." – Amy Wellock Staggs
They unpack the “with-ness” required to build meaningful connection—whether in families, friendships, or professional life. With a rich blend of coaching wisdom and lived experience, Rick and Amy explore how real transformation happens when we stay curious, slow down, and prioritize presence over performance. From navigating mentorship and family dynamics to showing up in our communities, this conversation reveals how relationships are not separate from our work—but often the very container in which our growth unfolds.
Deb shares her own experience of being coached by Rick and Amy, offering personal reflections on how their approach has helped her move through seasons of life with more compassion, purpose, and clarity.
Key Highlights:
Why every relationship is a container for human flourishing
The power of “with-ness” and staying shoulder to shoulder
How to challenge assumptions and deepen connection
Relational dynamics across work, family, and mentorship
Compassion as a leadership and life practice
About Our Guest:
Amy Wellock Staggs is an executive and life coach with a background in arts management and a passion for creative, honest human connection. She brings warmth, clarity, and lived experience to her coaching practice at the Wellock Group.
Rick Wellock is a veteran coach and human development expert with over 40 years of experience helping people evolve into their full potential. Now in partnership with his daughter, Rick continues to guide leaders with wisdom, humility, and a fierce commitment to relational integrity.
About The HX Collective:
The HX Collective is a movement to elevate the human experience—at work, in relationships, and with ourselves. Through honest conversations and strategic insight, we explore how connection, context, and compassion can create a more flourishing world, starting right where we are.
